if so, please email me at [email protected] - i need your help!.
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Hi Barrold Bonds,
That is a priceless gem. Here it is: " ... Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah - How? 1971, Chap. 12 pp. 216-217
Oops! I re-read your question and what I provided is not right -- but it's in the ball park of relevancy.
Len Miller
not that i was any better(lol - but as i sat back and thought about the time i spent there, and the things i saw i feel disgusted.. i could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but i doubt anyone would actually care.
the one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when i was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left.
it actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(not those dang trundle beds like we had in standish).. .
Hi sosoconfused,
As former Bethelite, and posting member here, you are number 84 on our list found here. You, and the other 83 certainly earned your stripes.
Len Miller
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from my place of forgetting, and out of my utter despair and loneliness, i tap out my pathetic message desperately hoping that there is someone, anyone that might possibly hear ... .
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I have no idea what you're talking about but I need to tell you Oubliette is the prettiest handle I've seen in a long time. My mama was French and your handle is French sounding. Welcome aboard.
Len
is this the first year that the jws have been out aggressively handing out memorial invitations from door to door?
i've been out for about 12 years now, but as i recall, congregations used to receive a relatively limited number of memorial invitations, and they were pretty much reserved for bible studies, good rvs, inactive persons, and others who had some sort of connection to the organization.
they were not just randomly handed out from house to house - that was what the "special talk" invitations were for.. it occurs to me that this might be an attempt by the wts to pump up the memorial attendance so as to maintain the illusion of continued growth.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.htmlit's hotting up in australia regarding cults, especially tax free like jws but how is the response of vin toole (the australian wts legal mouth piece) regarding shunning!.
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"A spokesman for the church in Australia, Sydney solicitor Vincent Toole, dismissed the allegations and said shunning was a 'myth.'"
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
i can't scan the memorial invitation for 2013, but i was looking at it today and noticed something curious on the front drawing.. we have jesus as the central figure of the composition.
to his right and bottom, a large crown, in colour, of shiny happy people of diverse origins.. separated from this by the figure of jesus, is another group, a much smaller one, on the left and as if ascending to the top, and grayed.. clearly portrayed in this group is the face of ct russell and apparently william tyndale.
but then, also sarah and abraham and other personalities of the ot seem to be represented there.
I recall throwing hundreds of those things away each year. Everyone got far too many at the literature counter hoping to impress others.
Len
for a while i have been curious about the specific contents of the pages that the wt (bible students) were ordered to remove from the "finished mystery" by the u.s. government.. anyone knows where i can get those pages?.
Finally, here. The pages that were removed under orders by the U.S. government.
A few quotes from that forum post:
"It might interest current and ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses to know that Rutherford ordered the Bible Students to rip out pages 247 through 253 in all copies of The Finished Mystery in his last ditch attempt to avoid jail time. Surprisingly, the Proclaimers book (p. 652) partially admits that this happened (that the pages were removed), but does not explain that it this was done so that Rutherford could avoid jail time. ...
Below are my notes about those pages. I’ll let you decide whether the charges of "sedition" were false -- or not. . .
"People who display patriotism are delusional murderers acting in the very spirit of the devil. Patriotism is narrow-minded hatred of other people." etc., etc.
for a while i have been curious about the specific contents of the pages that the wt (bible students) were ordered to remove from the "finished mystery" by the u.s. government.. anyone knows where i can get those pages?.
This forum discussion is from 11 years ago and has, I think, what you'd like to see. There, Blondie in her 38th (of some 40,000) post gives some excellent comparisons. There are others who chip in as well.
Len
for a while i have been curious about the specific contents of the pages that the wt (bible students) were ordered to remove from the "finished mystery" by the u.s. government.. anyone knows where i can get those pages?.
I can't help you directly but suspect, as Mr. Flipper does, that someone will jump in here. If push comes to shove, however, here is a link to over 300 sources of "Finished Mystery" discussions. It'll take some digging through on your part to see if some are relevant.
Len
if the shephard book contains rules taken from the nwt, then why is one held confidential and the other not viewed as such?
if the sheep are not allowed to view the elders manual then they should not be allowed to view/read the nwt.. "the following page shows an excerpt from one of the official letter that was sent to the elders regarding the importance of keeping this book confidential:.
(note: the "kingdom ministry school" referred to in the letter is a training program for elders and ministerial servants; the 1991 kingdom ministry textbook referred to is the previous version that the"shepherd the flock of god" book replaces)".
